Talk Given by Anil Kumar
I’m glad to be with you again this morning. We have two
days to go before the celebration of the birthday of Krishna…two days to
go. All over the world, people hear the name of Krishna. There are many
centres of Krishna consciousness, spread all over the world.
I would like to share with
you a few thoughts on Krishna. It is not possible, I can even say it is
impossible, to do justice here within an hour. But yet, glimpses of His
Divinity, a bird’s eye view on the life and mission of Krishna, will give
us the spirit to read about Him, to meditate on Him, and to know more and
more about Him, experience Him, and finally reach Him. It is in this
context, I want to say a few words on this occasion.
‘KRISHNA’ MEANS ‘THE POWER TO ATTRACT’
There are three meanings
of the word ‘Krishna’. The first meaning is ‘the One who attracts’. The
whole world is attracted towards this place. There are many people who
have heard and who have seen Swami in Krishna’s form. I have on my left
side a person known to me for thirty years. I know his mother had a vision
of Bhagavan appearing in the form of Krishna. Many people have had
darshan of Krishna in the Lord, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
Today Bhagavan has the power of attraction. He is like a magnet, with its magnetic effect, drawing all the iron filings towards it. This attraction is the true justification for the meaning of the word ‘Krishna’: drawing the whole crowd, all over the world. The first meaning of the word ‘Krishna’ is ‘the power of attraction’.
KRISHNA PLOUGHS THE LAND OF OUR HEART
The second meaning of the word ‘Krishna’ is a farmer, agriculturist or peasant, who tills the land, ploughs the land, removes the weeds, sows the seeds, waters and reaps the crop in the harvest season.
Here Lord Krishna acts as a peasant or as a farmer in
the individual lives of everybody. He is a farmer and a reformer in the
sense that He ‘ploughs’ the ‘land’ of our heart. Our heart is the field.
Our heart is the land, which is ploughed by Lord Krishna. Then He sows the
seeds of Love for Him, so that the tree bears the fruit of bliss later.
In that way, the ‘Krishna’ word, the ‘Krishna’ term, means a farmer.
IS ONE WHO IS ALWAYS JOYFUL
The ‘Krishna’ word has a third meaning: the one who is always joyful, the one who is always blissful.
What a justification, what a wonderful proof of the
word ‘Krishna’, is in the life of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba! You will
never find Him serious. He always has a smile. Physically, He may be
indisposed. Physically, there is something wrong, you feel. But yet, He is
always in a state of bliss. He always smiles.
No matter whether the situation is a tragedy or whether it is a comedy, the tragedy and the comedy do not matter. They do not matter to Him because He goes beyond the good and bad, the auspicious and inauspicious. He leads a transcendental life -- a life beyond dualism.
How true it is! Lord Krishna went to sing in the battlefield, and He also went to sing along the banks of the Yamuna with the cowherd girls.
BABA IS BLISS, BLISS IS BABA
The place and the time do not matter. Life is a song. If you ask Krishna, “What is Your life?” Krishna will say, “My life is a song, My life is a melody, My life is a celebration.” If you look to Swami, Swami will always say, “God is Bliss, Bliss is God. Baba is Bliss, Bliss is Baba.”
In trying to pray to Him, in trying to have His darshan time and again, there may come a moment when we rise to that standard.
HAVE THIRST FOR GOD
There is one word in Sanskrit that I would like to
share with you: a two-syllable word - thrushna. Thrushna
means ‘thirst’. You should have thirst for Krishna. If you have the
thirst, thrushna, for Krishna, that thirst will be quenched.
We have a thirst for worldly possessions, for worldly acquisitions, but we have no thirst for God. That’s the reason why we continue to be thirsty. We remain thirsty. Once we decide to quench that thirst once and for all, we can develop a thirst for Krishna.
With this note on the three-dimensional meanings and interpretations of the word ‘Krishna’, I would like to draw your attention to some more details.
KRISHNA BELONGS TO THE PAST, PRESENT AND
Krishna is a character of the past. Most people know
that He belongs to the Dwapara Yuga - not of today, but to that age
of thousands and thousands of years ago. Naturally, Krishna is a character
of the past. Naturally we have to appreciate Krishna’s importance by
giving a historical perspective. Krishna is important for history. So
then, why should we read about Him? Why should we sing His glory?
My friends, Incarnation has nothing to do with history, because this Incarnation, this Divinity, is a mystery; it is not history. It is a mystery, not history, because in the past, in the present, and in the future, we need Him. In the past, present and future, we look to Him.
Therefore, Krishna is of the future, the unknown future, the future eternal. And we are mistaken if we see the Incarnation as an event of the past, a celebration of the past, merely a commemorative jubilation, merely an event to be recollected. Certainly not. It is a celebration of every moment.
KRISHNA MUST BE BORN IN OUR MINDS AND
LIVE IN OUR HEARTS
birthplace of Krishna is known as Vrepalle. Where is Vrepalle? Where shall
I find it? Look for it on a map. We know that in towns, the major cities
in the USA, wherever people go, they use a map. “Go to the right; go to
the left; 204, 305, left, right, over there.” I see. Good. So, let us
consult the map as to where Vrepalle might be. After all, geographically
it may be a location.
Vrepalle is the mind of man where Krishna is to be born. Krishna is to be born in our mind, not in a geographical location.
The story of Krishna tells us that He moved around for
a long time along the shores in the land of Brindavan. Where is Brindavan?
Is it Whitefield in Bangalore? Yes, we have visited Brindavan sometimes.
No, not at all. Brindavan is in our hearts. So, Vrepalle, the birthplace,
is the mind. Brindavan is the human heart.
DWARAKA IS A STATE OF EQUANIMITY
And we hear of Krishna, settling there in Dwaraka, as the king. What is Dwaraka, where He settles as the Lord Supreme? What is Dwaraka? Dwaraka is that stage of experience of non-duality, of non-dualism, that stage of equanimity, that stage of balanced state, that stage where we are equanimous. That is Dwaraka.
When I am able to take both pleasure and pain, when I
am able to take profit and loss, victory and defeat, with equanimity, that
is Dwaraka, where Krishna reigns as king.
MATHURA IS SWEETNESS ITSELF
We also think of Lord Krishna in Mathura as an emperor. What is Mathura? Mathura -- the very word means ‘sweetness’. What is sweet in this world?
You eat a sweet like a doughnut or pie, available in the western canteen, or any of the sweets available in the North Indian canteen, for which it is famous (though, for your information, I don’t receive any commission) (Laughter). The North Indian canteen is known for its sweets, yes. Those from the North eat plenty of sweets.
Mathura…So, let me go to the canteen and buy a sweet? No. The sweet that we eat there may not continue to be sweet after eating two or three. I eat one sweet now. I want to eat one more. Yes, I eat it. I feel like eating one more. Yes, I eat it. Later, I will say, “No more!” though it is still sweet. (Laughter) So, the sweet that you and I eat will not continue to be sweet forever and ever, whereas God’s Name, Mathura, is sweet. Madhurya is sweetness.
This sweetness lays in the holy, matchless, glorified Name of God. You can repeat it any number of times. You can sing it any number of times, from womb to the tomb, in every breath, and yet it continues to be sweet -- sweeter and sweeter, sweeter and sweeter. That’s why it is said:
Mathuraadhipathe Akhilam Madhuram,
THE SWEETNESS OF THE LORD
We find some people all smiles, talking to their friends: “Look here, Baba smiled at me!”
When He smiled at you, why do you smile
at me? Why? Why do you tell me? Because the smile of Baba…yes…is so
capturing, so dynamic, so ecstatic that it leaves an indelible, permanent
impression on your mind, and you want to share that with everybody. Why do
I say Baba smiled at me? Not to advertise.
After all, my heart is a simple glass. When this simple glass is filled with more and more water, the water spills out. The glass of my heart is full of ananda, bliss. It starts spilling out. Therefore, I feel like sharing it with you.
My friends, people talk of Swami. Why? Because the cup of the human heart is so small, it cannot contain all the syrup, all the amrita, all the nectar within its limited space. So it starts spilling out to what is called satsang or good company, or to the study circle.
When I share, I have no
claim on that. Sharing without a claim is a study circle. Sharing with a
claim is ego. I don’t share with a claim. I am not egoistic. I share with
the spirit of joy. I want you to place yourself in my position and enjoy.
There life is real joy. That’s what it is.
THE BIRTH OF INCARNATIONS
WILL BE CELEBRATED BY HUMANITY FOREVER
Therefore my friends,
Krishna is the Lord of the future. We should also know one important
point. Over the years, not only in coming centuries but over the eons,
Krishna will be remembered and Krishna will be praised. Also Christ and
His birth will be celebrated as long as humanity survives.
Any Incarnation, any prophet, will never be forgotten
by humanity. Their birth is a matter of celebration. That’s the reason why
we greet each other with “Happy Birthday!” on the birthday of Bhagavan Sri
Sathya Sai Baba. The birthday of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba is a
birthday for everybody. For everybody! It is not merely limited to that
INCARNATIONS ARE BORN AHEAD OF THEIR TIMES
I can also say that every Incarnation is born ahead of
time. Since we have no head, we are behind the time (Laughter). We
are born behind the time. That’s the reason why we are outdated and
archaic, whereas Incarnations are born ahead of time. That’s the reason
why their message is fragrant. Their message is vibrant. Their message is
electrifying. Their message is energizing. Their message is catalytic,
Therefore, the vitality, the dynamism of the call of an Incarnation, lies in the fact that the Incarnation is born well ahead of the time. So, you can never say Krishna was born in the past. So-and-so was born -- wrong. The rules and the grammar of the past are not applicable in the life and the mission of any Incarnation. It is present, continuous, and future -- no past tense. Teachers of English, please forgive me if I am wrong in any way.
TURN YOUR LIFE INTO HIS MESSAGE
Krishna’s life is a beautiful combination. My friends, Bhagavan Baba said once, "If you think, 'Oh Swami! You could do it because You are God! I cannot do it as I am human,' there’s no point in being here." There’s no point in going through His literature. There’s no point in listening to His discourses.
“Baba! You could do it. You are full of Bliss. You are One of Sacrifice.” While so praising Him, I would like in turn to be blissful and turn my life into His message. We have to turn our life into His message. This is the true meaning of worship.
TRUE WORSHIP IS EMULATION OF THE GOD YOU
Worship is often misunderstood. Offering a flower, offering a garland, offering a coconut - anybody can do that who has some coins in their pocket. God is not so cheap. Worship is not that simple. Worship is not that brief. After all, the priest may be offering worship, looking forward to some tips, that’s all.
True worship is emulation: emulation of the qualities of the person whom you worship, whom you adore, whose glory you sing. If you emulate, if you copy those qualities, that is what you call true worship or archana. We emulate the example of the Incarnation.
Krishna is the personification of Love. Bhagavan Baba
is Love. I have got to be loving. If I am not loving, if I don't have any
trace of love, yet say I worship Baba, this is nothing but hypocrisy. It
is ridiculous. I worship Baba. Baba is One of
Sacrifice. If I am miserly and greedy, I cannot call myself His
So my friends, Krishnaashtami, the adoration of
Krishna, the praise of Krishna, actually means absorbing the qualities of
the life of the Lord, assimilating the message of Krishna, copying His
life, following His footsteps. Therein lies the true celebration of
BHAGAVAN IS BEYOND PLEASURE AND DISPLEASURE
As I said earlier, a laughing humanity, a joyful humanity will always look towards Lord Krishna. Krishna, the one with the mischievous smile, is always worshipped by a laughing humanity and a joyful humanity. I am reminded of what happened recently.
One boy said, "Swami, my grandmother died!"
Swami said, "Chala Santhosham", which means,
“Very good.” (Laughter)
"Swami, I fractured my hand!"
"Very nice." (Laughter)
"Swami, my son left home!"
"Nice thing he did." (Laughter)
There is nothing such as ‘not nice’ in His lifestyle. There is nothing like ‘no’ in His life dictionary. The life dictionary of God is full of ‘yes, yes, yes’ only.
Sri Sathya Sai, Sri Sathya Sai. ‘S’, ‘S’ and ‘S’: Sri Sathya Sai. Triple ‘yes’, multiple ‘yes’, and infinite ‘yes’! There is nothing like ‘no’ in His life dictionary. Therefore, whatever we say, He is happy.
"Bhagavan, I have come here to see You."
“When did you come?”
“But my brother did not come.”
"Very good." (Laughter)
It is not as if you are pleasing Him in one way and displeasing Him in another way. He is beyond pleasure and displeasure. I can please you by offering you a cup of coffee. I can displease you by ignoring you. If I don’t recognize you, if I ignore you, you feel so badly about it. Is it not true? It is. But you can never displease God. Impossible!
I very well remember a devotee visiting this place after a gap of twenty years. He came and sat there.
Our good Lord comes to him and says, “How are you? And how are your sons? I saw them when they were kids. One must be an engineer by this time, another a bank manager.” He talks to him of the present position of his two sons, whom He met when they were kids.
So, He doesn’t complain, “Why you have not come here in the past 20 years? Explain…or you will be terminated without notice! (Laughter). Or you will be served with a month’s notice to quit the place!”
There are no service conditions in the life of the
Divine. There are no stipulations. There are no suspensions. There are no
dismissals. There are no promotions. There are no reversals. You are where
You are where you are – in your reality. Where are you? In the Divine. The Divine is in you and you are in the Divine. And that is my position and your position. There is no question of displacement. There is no question of misplacement. There is no question of replacement. There is only one placement - in the Divine.
ALWAYS BE BLISSFUL
Therefore, Bhagavan is always joyful. Bhagavan is
always blissful. He wants us to be blissful. When you and I put on a long
face, He will ask, “What happened to you? Why the ‘castor oil face’? What
happened to you?”
In fact, Swami Vivekananda said, “A long face, a
serious face, deserves to go to a hospital and not to a place of worship.”
A smiling face, a joyful face, a life of bliss has a place in a temple, in a synagogue, or in a church. A sorrowful face, a miserable face, a complaining face, a life full of grudges, misgivings, misunderstandings and regrets has no place in a temple of worship. He can just cry on a railway platform all alone.
So, the message of Lord
Krishna is that we have got to be blissful, joyful. So that also is the
message of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
THE LORD OF COMPASSION AND LOVE HAS COURAGE
In the life of Krishna, we find a beautiful combination: a combination of compassion and Love on one hand, and the courage to fight on the other. Krishna is all courage to fight violence on one hand, and all compassion on the other hand. He’s a combination, a blend of polarities or opposites.
They are actually paradoxical. It is the irony of life
-- how positive and negative, juxtaposed, go together. Yes, it happened in
the life of Krishna. He is ready to fight, though He is full of compassion
What is the message to all of us? We should have compassion and Love towards fellow men -- Love towards God and compassion towards fellow men. Compassion is the expression of Love.
I cannot say, “I have all Love, but I don’t look at
you.” You must be blind! Or, “I have all Love, but I am not ready to
share.” Then you are a politician! (Laughter)
So, Love expresses itself by way of sacrifice. And
that’s what we call compassion. But we have forgotten compassion a long
time ago. Instead we think of passion, not compassion.
“Where was this shirt made?”
“It is the latest fashion!” Oh, no compassion! (Laughter)
So, the Lord of compassion and Love has courage to fight. What does it mean? Let us fight against hatred. Let us fight against desire. Let us fight against possessiveness. Let us fight against attachment on one side with all courage.
GOD IS NOBODY BECAUSE HE IS IN EVERYONE
It is not easy to fight against the ego. It is not so easy. If I fight with my ego, I lose my individuality. I lose my identity. I lose my brand. I lose my specialty. I lose my uniqueness. Nobody will say “Sai Ram” to me.
When I lose my ego, I am nobody. With my ego, I am
somebody. When I am somebody, everybody will greet me. When I am nobody,
no one looks at me. To be nobody is more difficult than to be somebody.
Bhagavan Baba. Seeing a poor person, He just opened His zip bag, and gave
500 rupees. This was for a poor man, carrying firewood on his head, who
had never seen Sathya Sai Baba at any time, and who had never heard His
Name till then. Nor did Sathya Sai ever personally let him know (about
Him), because Sathya Sai Baba wanted to remain anonymous. He doesn’t want
to be known.
Straightaway, a devotee went to that old man, that illiterate, rustic, uncivilised person, a poor man. The devotee told him again and again, “Do namaskaar (the palms of the hands coming together in a gesture of reverence) to Him, because He is God!”
the devotee to leave him alone and let him go. “Come on, come on! Let him
God is nobody. God is nobody because He is in everyone.
If you are somebody, you can be at some place with some body. So, you are ‘somebody’. (Applause) But when God is in everyone, who is God? God is everybody.
That’s the reason why the song said: “Everybody loves Sai, Sai loves everybody” during the 55th or 60th Birthday. “Everybody loves Sai, Sai loves everybody.”
EGOLESSNESS IS SPIRITUALITY
Therefore, on one hand, have these feelings of
compassion towards our fellow men and Love for God. And on the other hand,
let us have the courage to fight our own ego and lose our identity. Even
if no one looks at me, I should be very happy, because to become somebody
is nothing great.
Spirituality is defined this way: Egolessness is spirituality. Egoistic life is irreligious, immoral and non-spiritual. Egoistic life is non-spiritual. Therefore, Krishna, in the company of the cowherd boys, dressed in the same way, playing with the other boys, climbing on the trees, jumping, singing and dining with the cowherd boys, is an example of being nobody.
ORDINARINESS IS DIVINITY
Bhagavan Baba, walking towards the primary school
children, asked them, “What did you eat? What did you have for breakfast?
(Laughter) How many idlis (small rice cakes) have you
eaten? Two? Three? Why not half-a-dozen?” (Laughter)
He asked a
college student, “Did you have your bath?” That boy had a bath three days
“Arey, what sort of a bath did you have? Was it, after all, the sprinkling of a few drops on your body? Can that be a bath?”
Yes, He becomes very ordinary. While talking to primary school children, He is a primary school child. When He talks to a college student, He is, verily, a college student. That is ordinariness. Ordinariness is Divinity.
The sun is ordinary; the moon is ordinary; the stars are ordinary; the ocean is ordinary; the valleys are ordinary; the forests are ordinary; the flowers are ordinary. But man wants to be extraordinary. What an extraordinary creature he is! (Applause)
EGOLESSNESS IS THE KEY TO EFFECTIVE
There is nothing in being extraordinary. Some people
start to say, “I cannot communicate with everybody because I am at such a
high level.” But in fact, down in the depths of ignorance is he! (Laughter)
When you cannot communicate with everybody, we will appreciate it if you
remain silent. (Laughter)
Therefore, my friends, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba and Lord Krishna are perfect examples of effective communication -- effective communication because they remain anonymous. They have no separateness. They don’t consider themselves exalted. They don’t consider themselves superior, because they are in everyone.
If God is in you, and is not there in another person,
then there is something special in you. When He is in everyone, there is
nothing special about it. When there are so many sweets I can take, I
cannot say, “I want this sweet.” They are all laddus -- equally
Mathuraadhipathe akhilam madhuram.
KRISHNA IS BEYOND INDULGENCE AND AVOIDANCE
Here is another thing I want to bring to your attention: Lord Krishna is beyond the two aspects (of indulgence and avoidance).
simple example: A fellow wants to be a bachelor, a celibate, saying, “I
don’t want to get married.”
Oh, great! You’re going to be a man of history, a man
of the century. (Laughter) You are doing no sacrifice. At least the
life of a woman is saved! (Laughter) (Applause)
Why are you
afraid to get married? You are afraid to get married because you have no
confidence in yourself. And you think that by getting married, you are
getting into the area of indulgence. You say, “I don’t want to get
married” because you want to choose the path of avoidance.
There are two parts here: indulgence, and avoidance. To
both -- to those who get married, to those who do not get married -- the
common thing is marriage. He wants to get into this - indulgence. Another
doesn’t want to get into that - avoidance. But to both of them, marriage
is the common factor. Am I not right?
“I don’t want to get married.” Oh!
“I want to get married.” OK.
Marriage is the common
thing. But Divinity is not avoidance; Divinity is not indulgence. Divinity
is transcendence. Divinity is transcendence, because avoidance or
indulgence does not count at all. They do not matter at all in the
spiritual sense, as Krishna was in the company of many women -- 16,000 of
them! I don’t think that anybody could name
them in the least. And He has to His credit 8 wives! But yet He is
a celibate, a brahmachari.
KRISHNA IS A BRAHMACHARI
Krishna is a brahmachari, a celibate,
Yogeeshwara, a yogi (an ascetic who has mastered the senses
and the mind) Himself. Krishna’s life is the best example of being in
company, but yet remaining alone; being in the midst of the society, yet
solitary; being among relations, yet detached. That is Divinity. (Applause)
That is Divinity.
The present God, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, gives us
a message along this line. He doesn’t encourage everyone to be celibate.
He doesn’t encourage everybody to run away from their families. He doesn’t
call that, in any way, spiritual. Somebody just leaves his or her wife or
husband - just runs away. So, is this spiritual? No. Leaving the wife or
husband is quite easy. When we disagree, we leave. That is it. That
doesn’t mean it is spirituality, no.
So, giving up the wife, giving up the husband, leaving the property, anybody can do it. But that is not spirituality. In the midst of life, in the midst of family, in the midst of struggle, in the midst of tension, in the midst of turmoil, if you rise above the reality, if you rise above what is happening, that is true spiritual sadhana, or spiritual life.
RISE ABOVE YOUR PROBLEMS
The Bhagavad Gita
("The Song of God" or “The Song Celestial” – legendary Indian
scripture) indicates only one person. The Bhagavad Gita does
not speak of just anybody, but concentrates instead on the quintessence,
the essence of Vedanta (Indian philosophy).
Bhagavad Gita names one person, Janaka, King Janaka. He is a king, but yet a man of spirituality. Janaka is married, but a man of excellence. Janaka is an emperor, but a total renunciant. Janaka has his family, but yet is detached.
A boat is in the water, but the water is not in the boat. The lotus flower blooms and blossoms above the water, with its roots in the mud, yet with the flower above the water. The water does not get into the flower, nor does the mud stick to the petals of the flower. The mud is not stuck to the petals of the flower. The water does not drown the flower. But yet, the flower blooms above the surface of the water.
That is the message of Lord Krishna. That is the message of Bhagavan Baba. You should be above. You should not allow the problem to get into you.
HOW TO BE FREE FROM TENSIONS
Somebody asked Swami how to be free from tensions. Though the question is simple, it is everybody’s problem. A rich man is full of tension because he has to think how to continue to be rich, and richer. That is his problem, his tension. (Laughter)
A poor man also has tension because he has no money.
How to continue his life, how to eke out his living, how to win his bread?
That is his tension. Tension is the ‘LCM’, lowest common denominator. It
is common to both of them. (Laughter)
A sick man is full of tension because of his sickness. A healthy man is also under tension because he may fall sick later. (Laughter)
An educated man is full of tension because he feels an insufficiency or an inadequacy in the education that he has acquired. “I have a Ph.D. I have a M.Sc. Biotechnology. All the degrees I have, and I am very happy about that. But still, the knowledge and the degrees I have do not give me full and total satisfaction. Therefore, the inadequacy in my education is a cause of tension.”
Then, an illiterate man is full of tension because he feels inferior in front of an educated man.
So, everybody is full of tension. An officer is under tension because he is accountable to superiors. If he is negligent, he will be transferred. A subordinate is under tension because his colleague may rule over him tomorrow. Tension is common to both.
So, when this question is put to Swami, “Swami, what shall I do to get away from tension?” Baba said, “Forget everything, there and then itself.”
Forget everything, there and then itself! The moment I am in my office, that is the moment I am in the midst of my problems. The moment I leave my office, I leave my problems there.
The problems of the office should not be brought home,
to make the housewife miserable. When I am a dunce, a misfit in the
office, I should not make my wife suffer at home. When I am at fault in my
office, I cannot punish my children at home.
Leave the problems there, in the office. The problems
of the family should not be taken to the office. If there is a serious,
heated discussion between husband and wife, the officer should not then
shout at his people because of the ‘brought forward’ from home.
‘Brought forward’ is when the last column in the paper will be the first column in the next paper in the accounts department, (Laughter) but not in our lives. ‘Brought forward’ is the nature of accounts, budgeting, balance sheet, accountancy and finance. But ‘brought forward’ has no place in spirituality.
So, "Leave it there, and then leave itself," says
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, to continue to be ever blissful. This is
WHAT FORM OF KRISHNA SHOULD WE WORSHIP?
We also should believe in another important aspect. How do we worship Lord Krishna? Some worship Krishna as a child. Surdas (a blind poet) always sings of the glory of Krishna as a child, the child Krishna. Arjuna (a close friend and later relation of Krishna) appreciated Krishna as a young Krishna, a youthful Krishna. Meera (a female saint) appreciated Krishna smiling, a blissful Krishna.
But who is Krishna now? Can I say child Krishna is more
beautiful, with all the stories, with all the miracles, with all the fun,
frolic and humour? Krishna, playing with everybody, so enchanting, so
beautiful -- these are the stories of His childhood. Shall I think of
Or, shall I think of youthful Krishna? That is, Krishna as a young man, with all the courage, with all the valour, with all the strength to fight and to win.
Or, shall I think of Krishna as the embodiment of wisdom, the Preceptor, the Teacher of teachers, who disseminated the knowledge of the Self in the form of “The Song Celestial”, the Bhagavad Gita.
My friends, the knowledge
of Krishna is total -- the totality in worship. I cannot say that I love
the child Krishna, or I love the young Krishna, or I love the wise
Krishna. No, no. Krishna is all.
FAMILY DIGNITY IS VERY IMPORTANT
If you want to appreciate Baba, let us study His childhood. If you want to appreciate Baba, let us study His youthful days. If you want to appreciate Baba, let us see Him now.
Bhagavan has a message to convey in every step of His life, in every step of His life. He doesn’t want everybody to know that He comes from a poor family.
To go to school, He preferred to walk. He did not use
transport, because for transport one has to pay money. As He did not have
enough money, He preferred to walk. As He did not have an extra set of
clothes (having just one pair of shorts or trousers), He washed His
shirt first. Then, after it dried, He washed His shorts.
The message to learn here is that we people have no business to
damage the dignity and prestige of the family.
Family prestige is very important. The name of the family is very important. It should not be talked about on the streets in a cheap way by any Tom, Dick or Harry. The name and dignity of the family are very important.
Not only that. The child Sai was invited by His teacher
to come and visit him because the teacher’s wife had made special
pakoras - hot fried stuff. (You’ll find it in the South Indian canteen
in the afternoon. Of course, I don’t know their menu. I’m guessing, yes.)
“Sathyam, we’ve got pakoras this afternoon. Why
don’t you visit us and eat?”
But Sathyam went silently, with hands together, and said, “Sir, I am sorry. If I come and eat, how would my classmates feel? How can you be partial to Me?”
LEARN FROM THE LIFE OF KRISHNA AND BABA
Student Sai has a message to convey. Child Sai has a lesson to teach. Student Sai had a message to convey. And a youthful Sai with all His strength, with the spirit of service, is well worth emulation. And Sai, being the personification of wisdom, is the One in whom we can get immersed, getting lost there. When we listen to Him, we become lost. When we sing, we forget ourselves.
So, what is the life of Sai? The life of Sai is totality. The life of Sai is holistic.
Krishna Karnamritha is the story of child Krishna; the Bhagavad Gita is the skill of the adult Krishna; Gopi Krishna is the story of Krishna in His youth. So then, who is Krishna? Gopi Krishna, Gita Krishna and then child Krishna, Chinni Krishna, are all the phases of Krishna consciousness only.
So, Krishna consciousness, Baba consciousness, Sathya awareness: There is a lesson to learn in every stage of His life, in every moment of His life. It is a totality, not a fragmentation.
THE CONVERSATION OF UDDHAVA AND THE GOPIKAS
Somebody said, “I was reading Bhagavan’s book, and Bhagavan speaks of this
your attention please: There was a great wise man by the name of Uddhava.
Well, Krishna's friends (the gopikas) were waiting for His arrival,
but Krishna didn’t have the time to visit. So, He sent Uddhava to them,
saying: “Convey My message that I will come there some day.”
Uddhava went there and called all the women, the cowherd girls or gopikas.
“Come on! Here is a message from Krishna. I want to
communicate it to you.”
And those ladies said this: “Uddhava, you have seen
Krishna in the physical form. Uddhava, you are very near Krishna in the
physical plane. You talk to Him, you converse with Him, and you are in His
company. You are in the company of the song-full God. You are in the
company of God with all attributes, saguna. So, you are in the
company of God with attributes, saguna. You are in the company of
God with form, akara.
“But you want to teach us about formless, attributeless
Divinity. You run after the form, but you teach us formlessness. Why don’t
you run for an election? (Laughter) You run after God with
attributes, saguna, but then you speak to us of attributelessness,
nirguna. You have one standard for you, and a different standard
for us. We don’t want your message. Please go back."
A black flag demonstration: “Go back!”
That man Uddhava said, “What nonsense are you speaking?
I have come here with a message from Krishna.”
“Sorry, we have no time to hear you. We have no mind to
“What! You have no mind?”
“Yes. We have no mind.”
“That mind is given to Krishna. So, we never mind.” (Laughter).
This has a deeper implication. When the gopikas said, "We have no mind", it only meant the thoughtless state. It only meant the withdrawal of the mind. It only meant the annihilation of the mind. It only meant the stillness of the mind. The still water is calm; whereas agitated, disturbed water is different from still water. Similarly, when the gopikas said, "We have no mind", it signifies the still water, or the equanimous mind.
Then Uddhava understood that he was an unwanted,
unsolicited ambassador, who was most unwelcome there. So he said, “All
right. You don’t want to hear me. But Krishna cared enough to write a
letter for you. Come on! Read it for yourselves."
One lady got up and said, “Sorry. We are from this
village, unlettered and illiterate. We don’t know how to read. Go back. We
don’t want letters either.”
Then Uddhava said, “What is this? Am I in the midst of
illiterates? Rural, rustic people? Is there not one or two who can read
One lady got up and said, “I can read.”
“Come on! Then read it.”
“I am sorry. I won’t.”
“Because of the pangs of separation from Him, from
Krishna: When my tears start rolling, they may fall on the paper, and the
letters may get erased, so that they cannot be made out. (Laughter)
When the letters get erased, I can’t read, as the sentences are gone.”
“Oh, I see. OK. Is there anyone else who can read? This
lady is highly emotional (Laughter), most imbalanced (Laughter).
She keeps two rivers in her eyes, ready to pour out water. Is there any
other girl who can read?”
One girl got up and said, “I can read. But I won’t
“Oh, I see. What’s the problem with you?”
“Being separated from
Krishna, my whole body is burning. My whole body is burning with a high
temperature. When I touch the paper, it may be burnt up (Laughter).
So I don’t want it.”
WORDS FAIL IN THE DEPTHS OF EXPERIENCE
This is a simple story with a lot of meaning, with
depth in it. Its message is that scholarship or book reading is useless.
It also means that discourses or talking to somebody with preferences of
their own, which are in the opposite direction to what they say, is
nothing but duplicity, hypocrisy, and a double standard in life. It also
conveys the true feelings of a devotee.
My friends, we often think that someone is a devotee if he can quote freely from the Bhagavad Gita, or if he can talk eloquently on the Bible, or if he can freely say all that is said in the Quran, or if he can speak extempore, in a most impressive way. No. Speech-making is a mechanical process.
God is an experience; God is not an expression.
So, when I am speaking like this, please understand me. I belong to the category of people who have yet to experience. I have no sense of shame in telling you so.
Just two days back, Baba said, “When you stand
knee-deep in water, you can talk freely. When you immerse yourself
neck-deep, you can still talk. When you are fully drowned, there is no
Similarly, talk or words fail in the depth of the total existence, in the
state of bliss, in the state of ecstasy. Therefore, these gopikas, these
illiterate cowherd girls, speak of the depths of experience. Where? Where
silence is eloquence. Where silence is eloquence! That is a wordless word.
That is a speechless speech.
THE LOVE OF GOD IS IMMEASURABLE
Here is a simple example: You say, “I love my mother.” How much do you
love her? How many kilos? How many tons? Calculate it in terms of money.
How many dollars worth? Arey, what nonsense you speak!
Similarly, when you cannot measure by any known standards and parameters,
the love towards the mother, the love towards the better half, and the
love towards parents and friends, well, how do you estimate the Love of
God? How do you measure the Love for God? Impossible!
Therefore, this story, this incident, this episode, this anecdote of the
illiterate women of Brindavan speaks of the fathomless depths of
experience, not about volumes of expression. You may be a scholar, but not
a devotee. You may be knowledgeable, but you are not a seeker. You are
knowledgeable from the position of your knowledge. You are a scholar from
the point of scholarship. But all that is gathered from outside.
A TEACHER HAS A TIME AND SEASON,
A MASTER RESIDES AT THE ALTAR OF YOUR HEART
But what is
it that is original? What is it that is creative? What is it that you can
tell me on the basis of your first-hand information? Nothing.
Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa (a 19th century Bengali saint)
discontinued his studies while he was in class 7 or 8. Jesus Christ was
illiterate. Bhagavan Sathya Sai Baba also discontinued His studies at a
young age. But they have all become Masters, not teachers.
needs qualifications; a Master needs identification. (Applause)
talks to you; a Master inspires you.
has a time and season, a timetable, a schedule and a syllabus, a place to
meet, a classroom. A Master resides at the altar of your heart.
communicates, while a Master communes. A teacher is separate from
you, while the Master is One with you, is the One with you!
wants excellence. A Master says you are already excellent. You are already
excellent! You don’t have to work for excellence.
takes you to a different place, to a higher level. But a Master keeps you
where you are, and shows you what you already are.
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. That is the message of Lord Sri Krishna.
BHAGAVAN IS ALONE BUT ALL IN ALL
The life of Krishna is an adventure. He fought all alone, yet He is all in all for everyone. He is alone, but He is all to everyone. That is Divinity.
all alone, single. But He is all to every one of us. He is all in all.
But, on His own, He is alone. After bhajans, when He goes all
alone, one might think, ‘Oh God! You are alone. But yet, You are in every
one of us. You are personal and impersonal. You are in, but also out.’
Because You are in and out and beyond, that is Divinity.
LEAD A MATERIALISTIC LIFE WITH A SPIRITUAL
Life is an adventure. The life of Krishna was an adventure, because He
could annihilate all that was evil at that time. Life is an adventure
today, the life of materialism, when everything is counted in terms of
coins, dollars and money. It is only money that matters in family
relationships. It is the money that counts when respecting anybody, in
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba is the only one who says, “Money comes and
goes. Morality comes and grows.” That is life, an adventure in the
sea of materialism. We are in the midst of the sea of materialism.
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba wants us to swim against the tide. The
adventure is not materialism.
But yet again, He doesn’t want us to run away from materialism. Just
because money is not the criterion, that doesn’t mean I should remain a
beggar. Definitely not! It does not mean that I should make my pockets
empty. Certainly not!
My friends, keep this sentence in your view. Lead a materialistic life.
Lead a materialistic life with a spiritual goal. Let all the branches
grow in height. Let the tree grow in height to reach the heavens, which is
spirituality. Let the roots be deeply rooted in the mud, which is
If the roots are not firmly rooted there, the tree will be uprooted. The
tree has to be firm. So, that firmness is the material life. The branches
growing up to the heavens, quite tall, gigantic, those represent the
I can go on like this. There are many, many, many, many more things to know from the life of Krishna and Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
A PRAYER TO BHAGAVAN
this note of greeting, with this note of wishing you well, with sincere
prayers from the bottom of our heart to Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba to
bless every one of us, we still have two more days before the celebration
of Krishna Janmaashtami, (Krishna’s birthday). So, as
Krishna inspired Arjuna then, Baba, may You continue to inspire everyone
here, who is Arjuna himself.
Yes, You never vacated, You never left your residence that was the heart
of your devotee, the gopika in those days. Oh Lord! I pray to You
that You shall never leave me. I know that You are there, but let there
not be a moment of forgetfulness. Let there not be any moment of
Krishna saved the life of an elephant, which was dragged into a pool by a
crocodile. A crocodile dragged the feet of an elephant, so that elephant
could not come out of the pool. In such a state of helplessness, that
elephant, Gajendra, started praying.
responded. God stopped dining. God stopped conversing with His consort. He
left the dining table, started running, without relaying what was
happening in that moment of time. Responding to the call was more
important than having time to Himself.
You did that then. We pray that You continue to do this for every one of
us, because we are in dire and desperate need. We want You to help every
one of us. The crocodile of worldly pleasures also catches our feet. We
are also dragged into the pool of materialistic life. We, each one of us a
mighty elephant, cry for Your help so that You can then come to our
rescue.” God will come for our relief, even now.
look to those days when He could pardon the demons, when He could excuse
the demons, and still grant them the state of liberation. “Oh God! Even
now, we do have some demonic qualities; we do have some animal qualities,
which we have come to know of only after coming to You. Before You, we
were proud of those animal qualities. Having come here, we are exposed. We
pray to You so that we may get out of this demonic and bestial character.”
Krishna, You collected all the robes of the women there, all the saris
of the women.” Krishna was a child at that time. Here the sari, the
dress, is not a physical dress. It is the attachment to the body. “Oh
Bhagavan, we want You to disrobe every one of us so that we will not have
Child Krishna dances on the six hoods of the serpent. When Krishna dances on the hoods of the serpent, the serpent vomits poison. “Oh Bhagavan, may every one of us vomit the poison of hatred, the poison of attachment, the poison of avarice, the poison of possessiveness. Just as the serpent could vomit with You dancing on its head, with Your Name in our heads, may all the bad be vomited out.”
Let that be the message of Krishna Janmaashtami
for the day.
May Bhagavan bless you.
Thank you very much. (Applause)
Kumar closed his talk with the bhajan,
Narayana Govinda, Jaya Narayana Govinda”.)
Maa Sad Gamaya
Maa Jyotir Gamaya
Mrtyormaa Amrtam Gamaya
Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Babaji ki